Posted by: adventlife | July 8, 2017

Shouldn’t “the People of the Book” Give an Answer from the Book? By Nic Samojluk

Bible 3

Pastor Ted Wilson, the president of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists, has been reminding us that we are “the people of the Book.” If this is the case, how come we can’t get an answer dealing with abortion from “the Book?

I and other Adventist pro-lifers have written to the General Conference more than once asking for the reason our church decided to “lean towards abortion” back in 1970, and why we allowed our Adventist hospitals to offer elective abortions to their patients beginning on that date. The answer I and others received in response to our query was: “Read our Guidelines on Abortion.”

Is the document known as guidelines on abortion in the Bible? The answer is “NO.” It was created by Adventist theologians who were given the task of finding a justification for what the Law given by God to humanity forbids: “You shall not murder.”

Compare this answer with the response we get when someone asks: “Why do we keep the Sabbath as the sacred day of rest?” The answer we get is from the Book: “Read Exodus 20.”

Why can’t we get a similar response from “the Book” when we inquire for the reason our church abandoned the pro-life policy on human life and embraced the pro-choice/pro-abortion position on this life and death issue? Why can’t we get an answer from “the Book” on this question?

Do you see a problem here? Why can’t our church show some consistency when dealing with the right to life of the unborn? Why when asked about the Sabbath we are directed to the Bible, but when dealing with killing—something that the Book forbids—we are led to a tradition established in 1970 by mere fallible men?

I suggest that you watch a video created by a young evangelist named Andrew Michell, and then tell me what you think regarding this anomalous situation in the church:

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxMGxGw9oGY&feature=youtu.be

This morning I posted the comment listed below on the Adventist “Sabbath School Net” Internet site. Do you think that my posting will be published? I have serious doubts, because I have tried in the past to post similar comments and my comments were deleted.

This attitude towards the open discussion of this moral issue is surprising given the following statement found in said “Guidelines on Abortion”:

“Church members should be encouraged to participate in the ongoing consideration of their moral responsibilities with regard to abortion in light of the teaching of scripture.”

Link: https://www.adventist.org/en/information/official-statements/guidelines/article/go/0/abortion/

Is a silence conspiracy the proper way of encouraging Adventist to participate in the discussion of this moral issue? Have you ever attempted to raise this issue in any of the main Adventist media? I have been banned by several Adventist Internet sites for attempting to do this.

Currently there is only one Adventist site that allows the discussion of abortion: Fulcrum7. All the others refuse to publish articles on this topic.

Advindicate did publish one of my articles in the past, but when Kevin Paulson, an avowed pro-abortion Adventist pastor became a moderator of said site, he declared that abortion discussion would not be tolerated.

Adventist Today also published one of my articles some years ago, but this is history now.

Sabbath School Net : Here are the comments I posted on Sabbath School Net. As you can see. Said comments are awaiting moderation, but in fact I suspect that they are awaiting DELETION.

Nic Samojluk on July 7, 2017 at 6:20 am said:

Your comment is awaiting moderation.

“I want to address the following question by the author of today’s lesson: “What place (if any) is there for traditions in our faith? What warning might Paul’s experience offer for us today in regard to the whole question of tradition?”:

I wrote to the General Conference asking why our church allowed for elective abortions to take place in our own hospitals back in 1970, and why we still allow for the killing of innocent babies under a variety of circumstances.

The response I received was: “Read our Guidelines on Abortion.” I expected a different answer based on the Bible–not on Adventist traditions. We used to be known as the “people of the Book.”

When someone asks us why we worship on the seventh day of the week, we respond: “Read Exodus 20.” We lead people to the Word of God–not to our traditions. What happened to us? Should we not repent of this departure from Scripture?

An update: I recently checked the Sabbath School Net in order to verify what I suspected. My comments had disappeared from their site.

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Responses

  1. The timeless words of Yahushua: …And by this you invalidated the word of YAHUAH for the sake of your tradition. [7] You hypocrites, rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you: [8] ‘This PEOPLE HONORS ME WITH THEIR LIPS, BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR AWAY FROM ME. [9] ‘ But in vain do they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the precepts of men .’”

  2. Hi Nic:
    You are fighting the good fight, but sadly our beloved SDA was hijacked by the devil’s minions (closet Jesuits and corrupt seminarians) years ago. There is little left of the faith once delivered to the saints now evidently guiding NAD or GC leadership.
    EGW saw that we would have a test at the end. In vision she was shown the speeding train, and the destination of those who remained on board, under the conductor’s spell. Marvelous deception!
    Christ points the way, so if we are really People of the Book we will love and follow Him, not mere men. We will get off the train, and hold fast to our pillars and landmarks, and not be moved.
    If this cuts, let it.

    By the way, I gave up on Advindicate a year ago when the moderator started wearing jackboots. Intolerance of differing views is stifling.
    Kind regards,
    Chuck

    • Do you have the reference to the quotation you cited? [“EGW saw that we would have a test at the end. In vision she was shown the speeding train, and the destination of those who remained on board, under the conductor’s spell”]

      Nic

      • EW 263.1 et seq, but read from p. 262 for context.

      • Thanks for the reference and for posting the quote. Some visitors may not know how to access Ellen White writings.

        Nic

      • Here Nic, I just googled Ellen white speeding train:
        Context from page 262:
        They must understand the state of the dead; for the spirits of devils will yet appear to them, professing to be beloved relatives or friends, who will declare to them unscriptural doctrines.

        EARLY WRITINGS, PAGE 263
        I saw the rapidity with which this delusion was spreading. A train of cars was shown me, going with the speed of lightning. The angel bade me look carefully. I fixed my eyes upon the train. It seemed that the whole world was on board. Then he showed me the conductor, a fair, stately person, whom all the passengers looked up to and reverenced. I was perplexed and asked my attending angel who it was. He said, “It is Satan. He is the conductor, in the form of an angel of light. He has taken the world captive. They are given over to strong delusions, to believe a lie that they may be damned. His agent, the highest in order next to him, is the engineer, and others of his agents are employed in different offices as he may need them, and they are all going with lightning speed to perdition.”
        I asked the angel if there were none left. He bade me look in the opposite direction, and I saw a little company traveling a narrow pathway. All seemed to be firmly united by the truth. This little company looked careworn, as if they had passed through severe trials and conflicts. And it appeared as if the sun had just arisen from behind a cloud and shone upon their countenances, causing them to look triumphant as if their victories were nearly won.
        I saw that the Lord has given the world opportunity to discover the snare. This one thing is evidence enough for the Christian if there were no other; there is no difference made between the precious and the vile. Thomas Paine, whose body has now moldered to dust and who is to be called forth at the end of the one thousand years, at the second resurrection, to receive his reward, and suffer the second death, is represented by Satan as being in heaven, and highly exalted there. Satan used him on earth as long as he could, and now he is carrying on the same work

      • Thank you for posting that inspired quotation.

        Nic

  3. Of those who boast of their light and yet fail to walk in it Christ says, “But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment than for you. And thou, Capernaum [Seventh-day Adventists, who have had great light], which art exalted unto heaven [in point of privilege], shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works which have been done in thee had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.”—The Review and Herald, August 1, 1893. [The bracketed comments are by Ellen White]


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